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May 22, 2003
The Ethical Smut
Porn that will get you into heaven.

Hey Em & Lo,

I just recently started to date a woman who is, really, everything I've always wanted in a woman. She's a beautiful person through and through, smart, funny; in short, ideal. The best part about our new relationship is that she seems to feel the same way about me. We have great communication and I can honestly say that, in my 30-plus years on this planet, I've never felt this way about any of the many women I've had relationships with in the past.

The problem: We were hanging out at my place and she discovered a Playboy magazine. To me, Playboy isn't really even porn. I don't wank to it. In fact, I read the articles. Sure, I look at the pictures, but to me it's great bathroom reading. I've never felt like I should be ashamed of having Playboy out in the public areas of my apartment. Until now.

This woman is very principled and educated. She doesn't have a car because she doesn't want to pollute the air or support those corporations that sell gas. She eats organic foods and uses environmentally safe products. Basically, she not only talks the talk, she walks the walk, too.

She went to the bathroom and found the Playboy and suddenly she began to question the type of man I am. Her point is that we don't live in an equitable society and that those pictures are all about the subjugation of women. Not to mention the fact that they portray unrealistic images of women. I brought up all sorts of different arguments to counter hers, but, really, I'm not convinced that she isn't right. (Incidentally, she feels just as strongly about women's magazines like Cosmopolitan and Glamour.)

Like most men, I masturbate to porn. As far as porn I like goes, it's nothing too crazy. I'm not into women being degraded or anything like that. In fact, I can only really get off when it appears as if the fucking couple is really into it. I prefer the natural bodies in amateur porn to the surgically enhanced bodies of professional porn stars.

We had a long discussion about all of this and we both made good points. What it came down to for me was that I wasn't too sure about my point of view and she was absolutely sure about hers. I caved in and told her I'd throw all of my porn (and Playboys) out. That put a stop to the argument that had been going on for hours and hours, but I have to admit that I'm still a little confused about the whole thing.

Honestly, I haven't "used" porn since we had our discussion and I haven't really had the urge to, but I may someday. Our relationship is off to an amazing start and I think we both feel like this could be it for us. At least I know that's how I feel. I have fantasies of marrying this woman and having kids with her someday. Am I to go pornless for the rest of my life? Do I simply hide that part of who I am? Is there a way to compromise? I've tried my best to talk to her about this, but she is firmly entrenched in her position and seems unwilling to change her mind. I hope you can help.

Sincerely,
Pornless in Peoria
Dear Pip,

She sounds like a dream! No, really. We love a girl with convictions who doesn't back down just 'cause she's got a crush. (Did you catch the episode of this season's Bachelor when a vegetarian of twelve years let the dude hand-feed her a piece of meat? We almost gagged on our tofu dogs!)

But that's not the only reason we're leaning toward her side in this argument. Porn may not necessarily negatively impact the way you view women, but the big business of adult entertainment hasn't exactly catapulted the women's movement. Similarly, we doubt you've got any sweatshop management experience on your resume, but that doesn't mean you're not supporting sweatshop labor indirectly when you buy all sorts of items we'd mention here if it weren't for our lawyers. And don't even get us started on foie gras. Sure, sometimes bad porn happens to good people, but by being a consumer, you're voting with your dollars. (And unlike votes for Gore, those always get counted.)

Let's start with Playboy. Dude, what are you thinking? You only have to look at the cartoons to realize that it's a magazine for middle-aged overweight men with the sense of humor of a fourteen year old. (Unlike Maxim, which is a magazine for twenty-something beer-bellied men with the sense of humor of a fourteen year old.) Just because some urban chicks wear Playboy Bunny t-shirts for the kitsch value (at least, we hope that's the reason), doesn't make the magazine any less moronic than those stupid trucker caps all the hipster kids are wearing these days. And as we learned from foie gras and sweatshops, not jizzing on the pages doesn't justify the purchase. Besides, leaving it in your bathroom, or worse, on your coffee table, is just plain tacky. (For true quality reading material while you're on the pot, try The Onion.)

It probably boggles your girlfriend's mind that you could possibly find those corn-fed, blown-up, wax-skinned, bubble-headed centerfolds of Playboy (and most porn) attractive and be attracted to her — there's a huge disconnect there. When your adult entertainment uses such a narrow definition of what's sexy to men, when the photo spreads involve chicks wearing cheesy, scratchy lingerie and too much hairspray while bending over a carburetor, when every Playmate claims that it's been her dream since she was a little girl to pose for Playboy (ew! who lets their little girl read Playboy?) — then your girlfriend has legitimate cause for concern. If not about your politics, then about your taste.

When it comes to celluloid porn (which exists a little further down the slippery slope), her concerns probably run even deeper. If you believe Dateline, then all porn stars are undereducated, naive eighteen year olds who are lured in by false promises of Hollywood stardom, get taken advantage of for as long as their tits are perky and the sales are good, and then turn to a life of drugs and self hatred when the lights go out and the baum-chicka-baum music stops playing. Porn stars get screwed, literally and figuratively — no health insurance, no regulations, sometimes even no condoms. And unless you're a big-name star like Jenna Jameson, the huge media conglomerates that distribute the stuff (like G.M.) are the ones who rake it in while you work for peanuts (relatively speaking).

Of course, some women make this choice with a clear head and conscience, they find it empowering to be pleasured and to give pleasure, and they take pride in showing off their bodies (whether they came by those bodies via athletics or Amex). Unfortunately, they're in the minority. Hey, thirty years of liberation ain't a lot of time to balance the scales.

There's no Consumer Reports for porn, so you have to dig a little deeper if you want to be a conscientious consumer. And that's the only kind to be! That way, you shouldn't have to give it all up for your girlfriend. Check out recommendations on female-friendly sites like and Toys in Babeland and Good Vibrations, or stop by their stores and ask a sales rep — they'll be delighted to hear you want to become a responsible porn viewer! Babes in Toyland even offers a workshop giving an overview of women-friendly, women-produced porn. Starting with female producers or directors is a good bet. Check out the Suicide Girls online for D.I.Y. alterna-porn. Or how about illustrated and computer-generated porn, anime, dirty graphic novels, and comic strips — at least then you'll know that no actual humans were harmed or humiliated during the making of it. When you find some favorites, let us know: people are always asking us about porn-with-a-heart, and we'd be glad to spread the good word.

As far as convincing your girlfriend goes, don't push her. But don't lie about your porn habit or sneak behind her back either; that's just replacing one problem with a worse one. Tell her you want her help in finding porn that satisfies her admirable social conscience and both your libidos. Compromise: Tell her you'll cut way back and watch only female-friendly titles if she agrees to give at least one of them a chance. Maybe suggest some lesbian porn made by lesbians, so male-sponsored oppression is not even an issue. For some equal opportunity objectification, try gay porn or browse the Hooksexup Photography archives for more cool-looking naked guys (homo and hetero!) than anywhere else on the web. After all, "good" porn can actually improve your sex life: It gives you ideas to try out, fuels your fantasies, gets you in the mood, keeps things spicy — and it may just quench your thirst for the elusive "other" so neither of you ruin something so good. 'Cause if it ain't the porn, it's going to be something else that puts your relationship to the test.

Advice columnists for the ethical treatment of porn stars,
Em & Lo


About Em & Lo
Em and Lo (Emma Taylor and Lorelei Sharkey) are contributing editors at hooksexup.com, where they created the weekly sex and relationships column, "The Em & Lo Down: Advice from Near-Experts." Launched almost four years ago, it's one of the most popular features among the site's two million readers and is now syndicated nationally. In addition, they write weekly horoscopes for Hooksexup and a monthly advice column for Men's Journal magazine. Their first book, The Big Bang: Hooksexup's Guide to the New Sexual Universe, is now available wherever books are sold (click here to order your copy today). Em & Lo both live in New York City where they spend far too much time together. For more information, visit EmandLo.com.